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		<title>By: New Comm Biz &#187; Will 2010 be the Death of Free and Open?</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Comm Biz &#187; Will 2010 be the Death of Free and Open?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I really believed Arrington was on to something and was excited to see a content company join the hardware fray. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New Comm Biz &#187; A Glimpse into the Future of Social Media, Journalism and Advertising</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Comm Biz &#187; A Glimpse into the Future of Social Media, Journalism and Advertising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tacanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.newcommbiz.com/excuse-me-news-industry-why-did-you-matter-i-forgot/comment-page-1/#comment-27164</link>
		<dc:creator>tacanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David we need to do this more often. It is rare that I find someone&lt;br&gt;that I agree with so much on and enjoy as much as I do, debating over&lt;br&gt;so little.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you and I agree on everything but one small point. The degree&lt;br&gt;of relevance traditional media still has. To be clear, I don&#039;t think&lt;br&gt;you and I differ on how important journalism is, just how much of that&lt;br&gt;is left in today&#039;s media corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David we need to do this more often. It is rare that I find someone<br />that I agree with so much on and enjoy as much as I do, debating over<br />so little.</p>
<p>I think you and I agree on everything but one small point. The degree<br />of relevance traditional media still has. To be clear, I don&#39;t think<br />you and I differ on how important journalism is, just how much of that<br />is left in today&#39;s media corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that putting content behind an impermeable wall is the wrong answer. I&#039;m not saying that bloggers don&#039;t break news, but that the majority of news is still broken and reported by the mainstream. Even when the first news flash comes from a tweet (plane crash, building on fire, Ichiro got a hit,) the reporting and the investigation is still done by the mainstream. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as Huff and Drudge...Way overhyped. Take a look at the lead story right now on Huff. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/obama-ahmadinejad-should_n_211762.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/obama-...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is it? Embedded video from CNN &amp; MSNBC and a link to an AP story. That is 90% of the content on Huff. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Drudge? Yes an occasional breaking news item but more often than not it is what is today. Links to the Gainesville Sun, to the WSJ, to the Washington Post.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well there be a lot of newspapers and magazines that go under? You bet and I have no problem with that really. Those that can adapt and find business models to reward journalism will survive. Huff and Drudge better hope that is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that putting content behind an impermeable wall is the wrong answer. I&#39;m not saying that bloggers don&#39;t break news, but that the majority of news is still broken and reported by the mainstream. Even when the first news flash comes from a tweet (plane crash, building on fire, Ichiro got a hit,) the reporting and the investigation is still done by the mainstream. </p>
<p>As far as Huff and Drudge&#8230;Way overhyped. Take a look at the lead story right now on Huff. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/obama-ahmadinejad-should_n_211762.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/obama-.." rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/obama-..</a>. </p>
<p>What is it? Embedded video from CNN &#038; MSNBC and a link to an AP story. That is 90% of the content on Huff. </p>
<p>Drudge? Yes an occasional breaking news item but more often than not it is what is today. Links to the Gainesville Sun, to the WSJ, to the Washington Post.   </p>
<p>Well there be a lot of newspapers and magazines that go under? You bet and I have no problem with that really. Those that can adapt and find business models to reward journalism will survive. Huff and Drudge better hope that is the case.</p>
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		<title>By: tacanderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>tacanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that I can always count on you to keep me in check. It was getting kind of quiet in here :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;what&#039;s on the other side&quot; comment is in regard to those who may try and close off their walls. I think that Rupert is leading the media down a self destructive path that only a very few sites will survive, like Murdoch&#039;s own WSJ (I count the New Yorker in that crowd too). And what&#039;s worse is I think he knows that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I get your point, but are you really telling me that bloggers don&#039;t break news? Because they&#039;ve been doing it for as long as there have been blogs. In fact the rise of blogging was directly fueled by the fact that bloggers consistently scooped the media or the media flat out wouldn&#039;t cover certain stories because of the fear of retribution from advertisers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You want examples? Drudge and Huffington Post.  And just because they&#039;ve gained mainstream acceptance doesn&#039;t remove them from the blogger crowd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My main point is that if the bulk of main stream media takes their content and puts it behind a wall you will see a rise in blogger/citizen journalism that will eclipse anything that&#039;s happened up until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that I can always count on you to keep me in check. It was getting kind of quiet in here <img src='http://www.newcommbiz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The &#8220;what&#39;s on the other side&#8221; comment is in regard to those who may try and close off their walls. I think that Rupert is leading the media down a self destructive path that only a very few sites will survive, like Murdoch&#39;s own WSJ (I count the New Yorker in that crowd too). And what&#39;s worse is I think he knows that.</p>
<p>I get your point, but are you really telling me that bloggers don&#39;t break news? Because they&#39;ve been doing it for as long as there have been blogs. In fact the rise of blogging was directly fueled by the fact that bloggers consistently scooped the media or the media flat out wouldn&#39;t cover certain stories because of the fear of retribution from advertisers.</p>
<p>You want examples? Drudge and Huffington Post.  And just because they&#39;ve gained mainstream acceptance doesn&#39;t remove them from the blogger crowd.</p>
<p>My main point is that if the bulk of main stream media takes their content and puts it behind a wall you will see a rise in blogger/citizen journalism that will eclipse anything that&#39;s happened up until now.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We aren&#039;t on opposite sides of the fence here..I also believe in the digital revolution, the power of the blog, etc. I fundamentally disagree with the assertion that what is happening on the more traditional side doesn&#039;t matter or isn&#039;t relevant. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot; Why did we want to see whatâ€™s on the other side again? I forgot why you mattered.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The majority of news is still reported and discovered by the &quot;mainstream&quot;, I just don&#039;t think its in the space you are following.  Point me to a single blogger who breaks news like ESPN does. Help me find one tweet that delivers news on human rights like this New Yorker article does; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/0...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that these organizations are working well digitally does not remove them from the &quot;media, news guys&quot;. Media and news guys are relevant and they absolutely do matter. Are certain parties in that group taking the wrong approach? Absolutely as well. Does that make the whole group irrelevant? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We aren&#39;t on opposite sides of the fence here..I also believe in the digital revolution, the power of the blog, etc. I fundamentally disagree with the assertion that what is happening on the more traditional side doesn&#39;t matter or isn&#39;t relevant. </p>
<p>&#8221; Why did we want to see whatâ€™s on the other side again? I forgot why you mattered.&#8221; </p>
<p>The majority of news is still reported and discovered by the &#8220;mainstream&#8221;, I just don&#39;t think its in the space you are following.  Point me to a single blogger who breaks news like ESPN does. Help me find one tweet that delivers news on human rights like this New Yorker article does; <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/0.." rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/0..</a>.</p>
<p>The fact that these organizations are working well digitally does not remove them from the &#8220;media, news guys&#8221;. Media and news guys are relevant and they absolutely do matter. Are certain parties in that group taking the wrong approach? Absolutely as well. Does that make the whole group irrelevant? No.</p>
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