Yammer Helps Your Company Create More Edges and Flows

Last month I gave Yammer (a product I like) a hard time because it doesn’t integrate with microblogging clients like Seesmic and Tweetdeck and I feel that their pricing is prohibitive to large, enterprise companies.

I got several comments from people and had some really good discussions around the use of Yammer and the good and bad people face with the product. To my surprise the most engaged commenter was David Sacks, Founder and CEO of both Yammer and Geni, was previously the COO of Paypal and if that wasn’t enough, producer of the movie Thank You For Not Smoking.

I’ve been meaning to, to do a follow up post on what Yammer decided to launch instead of the features I thought they should have implemented but yesterdays Social Business Summit provided the perfect fodder I needed.

Lane Becker, CEO of Get Satisfaction, made the comment that we need to create more edges in our companies. Edges are where the cool things happen, it’s where conversations with partners and customers happen; it’s where innovation occurs.

John Hagel then later made the comment that companies need to move from knowledge stocks (proprietary IP that they milk dry) to knowledge flows (rich interactions and collaborations with stakeholders).

Earlier this month Yammer released Yammer Communities a tool that can do just that.  From the Yammer blog:

This new product feature enables companies and organizations to create a new type of Yammer network that is not restricted to a common email domain.  Yammer Communities provide companies with a secure, private, and separate space to communicate with their external business contacts.

Yammer Communities

This is an excellent move for Yammer. Traditional “partner portals” or “extranets” are secure, intranet like sites where companies can share things like documents and announcements with partners and over the years extranets have grown to include some level of collaboration. Most extranets suck for two reasons:

  • They’re hard to use have horrible UX
  • People don’t want one more place they have to remember to check

I have no doubt Yammer will destroy current extranets on both accounts. However I still think that being able to access Yammer from an aggregated application like Tweetdeck or Seesmic will make the service much easier to use. But David is a successful serial entrepreneur, the one category of business person I have the most respect for, obviously knows what he’s doing and shouldn’t be listening to every blogger with an opinion and an overinflated sense of importance.

I’m looking forward to giving the new communities feature a test to see how well it works.

It’s pretty long (just under 30 minutes) but if you’re interested here’s an interview Robert Scoble recently did with David.

I chat with the CEO of microblogging and corporate social service leader, Yammer, about what they are doing and how the enterprise market is becoming hyper competitive with companies like Salesforce, Jive, Socialtext, SocialContext, Google, and Zoho all angling for the market that Yammer was first in.

Internal social media is about to go through the growth external social media went through for the last few years. It’s going to be exciting to watch.

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How Does Yammer Stay Relevant?

YammerMost people I talk to don’t use Yammer much. The “cool” factor seems to be fading. If it wasn’t for the fact that it was free I wonder how many people would use it at all? As we all know free doesn’t support as business for very long.

Yammer is having a “major launch event” on Thursday 2/25. What will they announce? I don’t know. What I hope they announce?

  • Tools integration for better workflow.
  • Better enterprise pricing.

I like Yammer. I really do. I just hardly ever use it. Here’s a few reasons why I don’t use it:

  • I either have to go to the site or download their own AIR app to use it.
  • I “talk” to most of my coworkers by IM, email and Twitter.

Basically it boils down to workflow. I commented on Twitter last month that I was surprised Yammer didn’t integrate with any of the Twitter apps like TweetDeck and Seesmic. To my surprise @mhat, a “Yammer Generalist” according to his bio, responded to me. He asked what I was hoping for and after a few tweets that was all. We’ll see.

The other complaint I have about Yammer as a corporate employee is their pricing. No not the free part, that’s fine. It’s the $5.00 per person that’s insane. A large company like HP could buy or build a replacement to Yammer cheaper than they could license $5.00 a head. In fact some engineers at HP were building their own version of Yammer that wasn’t as slick (at least not when I saw it a year ago) but it was integrated into the rest of the Intranet so posts showed up in search.This is especially easy for companies to do with open source tools like Status.Net that you could literally host your own internal microblogging service.

Even for a medium sized company like my current employer, Waggener Edstrom, licensing would cost over $4,000 a year ($5 X 800). I’m guessing here but I don’t think we pay 4K a year for the licensing of any single product (excluding bulk licensing like Microsoft Enterprise which covers lots of products and includes support).

I’m also sure they’ll announce a lot of cool tools for better collaboration, knowledge management, etc, etc. But until they solve these two problems I don’t see them being able to continue their early growth.

What would get you to use Yammer more? What would you like to see Yammer announce?

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How to use Posterous for Internal Collaboration

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Working in a cross functional team I meet with a lot of teams to share advice, tips and tricks. I then frequently get follow up questions (because I openly invite them). Last night I received one and wanted to share an edited and more detailed version of the email exchange Q&A with you because I think it would be helpful.

Not too long ago I would have recommended setting up a Ning site or a Google Group or even a private Blogger account but Posterous is just so much more simple to use, especially for people who live in their Outlook inbox. Now we just need an enterprise version of Posterous.

Q – I’m looking for ways to connect micro groups within the agency on social networking platforms such as former interns who’ve grown through the agency, remote employees, etc. It is for conversations that need to remain limited just to a particular group (like an alias if your thinking email terms) and not exposed publicly for all to see. What do you recommend? I worry somewhat about folks having to go to another app outside of Outlook for discussions such as this, but there’s a need to tap into some digital exploration here.

A – As long as you’re not talking about confidential information you can have your cake and eat it too. :)

Posterous lets you have blog type functionality with the ease of email. If you have not tried Posterous yet send an email RIGHT NOW to post@posterous.com. I’ll wait.

Now that you’re set up in Posterous, log in w/ the info they send you and you can set up groups, you can also set it up privately. You can post comments by replying to posts (which show up as emails) and you can share attachments like video, picture, audio and documents which Posterous will embed in the post. You can also set up multiple Posterous accounts. My account is www.tacanderson.com plus I have 2 others.

If that doesn’t work for what you need let me know. FriendFeed also has some similar features but its geekier and not as easy to use for the average person.

Q – This is perfect! So one question is – sometimes we share best practices, which is a little bit exposing and we may not want all account teams to see. Could someone view in?

A – As long as you set it to private no one that is not invited can see it or post to it. If they are invited they have access to see, post and comment.

***But remember just like Yammer or any other social network this is not “secure” so you can’t share confidential or restricted info.

Good luck and let me know how it goes.

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Social Media is not a back channel

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Peter Shankman has a great story about an agency guy that tweets about his distaste for Memphis while visiting FedEx to do some social media training. Oops. He got busted big time.

People have a tendency to get comfortable social media. Too
comfortable. There’s no shortage of examples where people post
incriminating photo’s on their Facebook or MySpace pages.  This is a problem that’s only going to get worse.

Like many HPers, I first joined Yammer after they won TechCrunch50.
I was first excited about the product (and I think it has a lot of
potential) but for me I didn’t find much to post there that I wouldn’t
post on Twitter. I think it has potential for two reasons:

  • Some employees like the idea of Twitter but don’t want something so much out in the open
  • There are things you may want to say to employees that you wouldn’t say on Twitter

TechCruch reports that Yammer has just raised it’s first round of funding. Yammer Raises $5 Million For Workgroup Micro-Messaging
So other people obviously feel it has potential as well.  Yammer has a
nice business model. It’s free to any employee with a company email. If
you want to control this group, say exclude people who have left the
company since signing up, or brand your companies page, there’s a per
user fee. This is great for small businesses who want a company wide
back channel, this doesn’t make sense for large enterprise customers. I
haven’t checked recently but I’m sure that if they don’t know, at some
point they’ll offer enterprise licensing.

In last week’s core community group the issue of Yammer came up. (I’ve mentioned our core community group before and written about it on my HP blog.)
The question was basically “What do we do about this?” It’s a very
valid question. The Yammer community is kind of a HP community, but no
one at HP gave them permission. The concern is that employees will
treat this like an official HP communication channel. Or just get a
little too comfortable with it and start saying too much.

HP has an official policy in our standards of business conduct which
applies to all company communication, to paraphrase: you don’t share
privilaged information through non secure channels. This means you
don’t send email to the wrong people, you don’t talk about certain
things outside of work, etc.

I quickly made the point that Yammer is no different than Ning, Facebook groups, LinkedIn
groups or anyother employee group, of which there are many. Anyone
could star a group for employees and people do. The thing to remember
is that these are not official and secure channels.

We will see a time where someone screws this up. Hopefully not at HP
but someone at some company will. We’re not perfect. Just like people
say the wrong things in email and to the wrong reporter, people make
mistakes.

I’m proud to say that the group at HP didn’t freak out and didn’t
try and shut it down. Instead we decided to make sure that our business
conduct standards are emphasized and updated to explicitly include
social media platforms.

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